Ellie Goulding, the English indie-pop singer-songwriter, considers Taylor Swift one of her pals. But more importantly, Goulding is good friends with the idea of having good friends. Especially girls.
And the "Anything Could Happen" singer explained to the British edition of Glamour magazine why her friendship with Swift and other high-profile women are some of the ones she loves to love the most.
"We're friends because they understand the predicaments. They see what is and isn't real. I'm not anywhere near their level of fame, but if I say, 'Oh, God, Taylor, this happened,' she'll be like, 'Girl, that's nothing,'" Goulding said. "Suck it up, kind of thing! I have strong female characters all around me, really cool women."
Beyond Swift, Goulding has girls in her life that do more than just pal around New York City with her.
"My tour manager is a woman, my manager is a woman. I want to be surrounded by powerful women, not men," she said.
I don't know exactly how the two singers met, but it sounds like they are very like-minded when it comes to the way they approach a blank sheet of paper.
"There's an innate part of me that is very strong. But there'll always be that part of me that I go to to write songs -- that weakness, that vulnerability. That's what I access to write my music. In this industry, oh, God, do you need a thick skin! But it's that thinner skin that's gotten me here," Goulding said, sounding exactly like Swift has in so many interviews over the course of her songwriting career.